Hermit Road
6:31 Sat Dec 11
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gph 2:10 Sat Dec 11
That is a good point. Although I think with smoking it will be more effective because the trade off is much lower. With smack, crack and anything else you get a significant high, with smoking you get fuck all.
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Hermit Road
6:29 Sat Dec 11
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As I said earlier, I don’t have a problem with this and I’d be surprised if there isn’t massive support for it. Would be much different if they were making it illegal for everyone as that just criminalises people overnight.
Much more worrying is the NZ govt setting up a fund to pay journalists who promote the government line. That is pretty fucked up.
https://twitter.com/ElectionWiz/status/1469418652562866182
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Capitol Man
3:45 Sat Dec 11
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Of course, but hopefully you make establishing a two-packs-a-day habit cost-prohibitive in the process.
Smoking is a slow-burn, daily addiction. It’s the way that it slotted into general life that makes it addictive - having a beer, break from work, long, boring drive. Bit like booze to be honest.
It’s hard to build it into daily life if it’s hard to get hood of an expensive. Not that it can’t happen, but maybe less likely to is a win.
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gph
2:42 Sat Dec 11
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Stopping someone from starting in law and stopping them in practice are two different things.
If they weren't, they'd be no heroin users or coke-heads.
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Capitol Man
2:20 Sat Dec 11
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They are approaching it in a reasonably coherent way - not trying to tell someone already smoking that it’s banned, but making it harder for anyone young now to start. You can combine that with education.
Given how frustrating it is to quit it’s hard to say stopping someone from starting is a bad idea
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gph
2:10 Sat Dec 11
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Smoking rates are very much down on the past.
It'll be a long time before no one smokes, but banning it won't bring that time any closer.
Just look at the already banned drugs. Organised crime's product of choice.
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daveyg
1:57 Sat Dec 11
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gph
not really,people have been educated about the pitfalls of smoking for 50yrs, still kids and adults smoke.
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gph
1:25 Sat Dec 11
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Banning smoking is a stupid short-cut that won't work.
Education's the way to go.
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Capitol Man
1:21 Sat Dec 11
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Do you think that’s reflective of the fact the pair of you seem to struggle to process information and are unable to assess relative risk?
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riosleftsock
12:47 Sat Dec 11
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I'm also a smoker Lily.
My brother is an actuary, he told me he will start smoking (or say that he's smoking) when he gets near to retirement and buys his annuity.
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Lily Hammer
12:45 Sat Dec 11
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Driving cars, including electric ones, at 20mph or above could be outlawed following this logic, especially if it’s for “non essential” reasons.
I’m a smoker and a driver, but I think this would make more sense than mandated experimental jabs.
I don’t support any of these ideas.
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riosleftsock
11:14 Fri Dec 10
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Probably be a better idea in NZ (and most of the west) to stop cosanguineous marriages
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chim chim cha boo
11:13 Fri Dec 10
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Auntie Thermite 3:05 Fri Dec 10
I know that you hate Jews but please lay off with the sodomy?
It took a couple of years and a a fair few Bob to make her mum not testify.
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mashed in maryland
11:05 Fri Dec 10
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This news has literally made me want to start smoking again.
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riosleftsock
11:02 Fri Dec 10
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Sydney_Iron 10:18 Fri Dec 10
Fucking hell SI, that's a bit racist.
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Surfinglizard
10:53 Fri Dec 10
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This is a very good idea.
It’s not a relevant argument to talk about freedoms being suppressed. Unlike some other vices, smoking negatively affects not only the smoker but the unfortunate passive smoker. Trying to prevent people from starting at a young age is the right thing. No it’s not perfect but it’s the right thing to do.
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Sydney_Iron
10:18 Fri Dec 10
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They should ban single parenthood because kids raised in single-parent families are at greater risk for a variety of unfortunate outcomes.
There's an unlimited number of idiotic ideas that people will support in order to 'do the right thing'.
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,
3:15 Fri Dec 10
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You’re a waste of an epidermis, dermis and hypodermics.
Go away.
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Auntie Thermite
3:12 Fri Dec 10
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Two of the biggest culprits demonstrating once more the utter pointlessness and worthlessness of what they think, say and do.
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,
3:11 Fri Dec 10
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Go away.
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Leonard Hatred
3:10 Fri Dec 10
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I like to stab you in both eyes with a fork.
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